Obviously we’re several days behind on this, and the conversation has already started, but posting for posterity sake–last weekend the Pro Football Hall of Fame did announce their list of 15 modern-era finalists for the Class of 2025. Featured in the group are an interesting a mix of first-time nominees and returning candidates–with Rodney Harrison being a notable exclusion, after advancing to the final 15 last year for the first time.
The selection committee will convene before Super Bowl LIX to elect between three and five inductees from this group.
First-Year Eligible Finalists:
- QB Eli Manning: A two-time Super Bowl MVP with the New York Giants, Manning ranks among the top 10 in NFL history for passing yards and touchdowns.
- LB Luke Kuechly: A seven-time Pro Bowler and 2013 Defensive Player of the Year, Kuechly was renowned for his leadership with the Carolina Panthers.
- LB/DE Terrell Suggs: Accumulating 139 sacks over his career, Suggs earned the 2011 Defensive Player of the Year award and was a pivotal part of the Baltimore Ravens’ defense.
- K Adam Vinatieri: The NFL’s all-time leading scorer with 2,673 points, Vinatieri’s clutch kicking secured multiple Super Bowl victories for the New England Patriots.
- G Marshal Yanda: An eight-time Pro Bowler with the Baltimore Ravens, Yanda was a cornerstone of their offensive line.
Returning Finalists:
- TE Antonio Gates: Holding the record for most touchdown receptions by a tight end (116), Gates was a key offensive weapon for the San Diego/Los Angeles Chargers.
- DE Jared Allen: With 136 career sacks, Allen was a dominant pass rusher for teams including the Kansas City Chiefs and Minnesota Vikings.
- WR Torry Holt: A vital part of the St. Louis Rams’ “Greatest Show on Turf,” Holt amassed over 13,000 receiving yards in his career.
- WR Reggie Wayne: Ranking 10th all-time in receiving yards, Wayne was a consistent target for the Indianapolis Colts.
- WR Steve Smith: A five-time Pro Bowler & two-time All-Pro who totaled 14,731 receiving yards and totaled 87 touchdowns in his career.
- T Willie Anderson: A three-time Pro Bowler with the Cincinnati Bengals, Anderson was known for his pass protection skills.
- G Jahri Evans: A six-time Pro Bowler with the New Orleans Saints, Evans was instrumental in their offensive success.
- S Darren Woodson: A three-time Super Bowl champion with the Dallas Cowboys, Woodson was a defensive leader throughout his career.
- DB Eric Allen: With 54 career interceptions, Allen was a standout for the Philadelphia Eagles and other teams.
- RB Fred Taylor: Rushing for over 11,000 yards, Taylor was a key offensive player for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
The final selections for the Hall of Fame will be announced during the “NFL Honors” show on February 6, 2025, in New Orleans, with enshrinement ceremonies scheduled for August in Canton, Ohio.
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Happy New year all.
If you would like to participate in our annual election prediction contest you can post your entry here -let’s say by deadline of Jan 31st. Names of all those elected including moderns and any senior coach and contributor. I will compile and track submissions and post results after official announcement on NFL Honors Show Thurs Feb 6th
Thanks Tony … lets hope the voters do a great job on the deserving Class Of 2025!
Wishlist
Woodson
Allen
J Allen
Gates
Evans
Prediction
Gates
Holt
Anderson
J Allen
Sharpe
Baughan
Holmgren
I still think Kuechly could make it first ballot, but we will see if the voters wait like they did with Willis?
Turney seems to think enough voters are questioning LukeK as first ballot – I suspect it’s 50/50 chance (and could be how we end up with only 4 moderns as LukeK falls short of 80%)
My predictions: Gates Holt JAllen DWoodson Holmgren Sharpe
Woodson would be awesome. Even Turney thinks he has a chance but I wont believe it till I see it. I think the voters might try to elect Anderson from the queue before moving towards Evans and Yanda. I would be shocked if Yanda went first ballot …
Well, wasn’t quite planning on launching the new design yet, but…broke something while testing, so here we are. More to come to make it look a little better…
Tony new design what’s going on
Guess the mobile view is still a bit messed up…will try to get it fixed today.
looks great on computer
Agree with Paul. The new design looks great on my home computer. Thanks and great job. Will post my predictions later. Still debating how all of the new voting rules will impact things.
My predictions for the Class of 2025#: Gates, Jared Allen, Torry Holt, Willie Anderson, D. Woodson along with Mike Holmgren and Sharpe.
Prediction: Holt, Jared Allen, Gates, Woodson, Sharpe and Holmgren (if there’s a fifth modern I’m thinking Anderson)
Wish: Holt, Gates, Woodson, Steve Smith, Eric Allen, Baughan, Sharpe, Hay
The single best player in the mix is probably Jim Tyrer but I just dont know what to do with him – dont think there’s any chance he’ll be elected.
I’m disappointed Hines Ward didn’t make the list. He was more than a WR. He was a dawg! IMO he should be in the HOF before Reggie Wayne and Steve Smith (another tough guy). If it’s Holt’s time put him in but y’all know I don’t strongly support. Heck I’d put several Wr’s before Smith. He isn’t the first 5’9″ player to thrive in the NFL. I’m a supporter of Gary Clark and Mark Clayton. Clayton was money for Dan Marino with 80 tds in 8 years as a starter for the Dolphins.
Just my opinion but all these NFL team and league records being ballyhoo’d over is a little silly. Each one should be put into context. Mike Evans and his teammates celebrated like they just won the SB because he got 5 yards on the last play of the game so he would have 1,000 for the year to tie Jerry Rice with 11 straight 1,000 yard seasons. Great HOF consistency but IMO it means nothing tying Rice. Rice is still the man.
Last day of the 2024 regular season. Aaron Rodgers and Calais Campbell might be playing their last games. Calais Campbell 1/6 is a great pro but like so many other D-Lineman is on the fringe of being a HOFer. I’m thinking Kansas City Chiefs Neil Smith 1/6 and Chargers Leslie O’Neal 0/6 with 700 tackles and 132 sacks. These guys should have a good shot as time goes by at least I hope.
I’ve been seeing these lists about HOFer not deserving. Looking for comparable players to Campbell’s 109 sacks I was thinking Greg Townsend and he has the same number of sacks. I don’t think he had the motor for tackles like Campbell. I never thought Townsend was a HOF player. Only 2 PB’s. Funny he has more tackles than the great Dwight Freeney and only a few less sacks. lol Time to pick another DE. There’s a 2nd ballot HOFer who was an All Pro with 10 and 12 sacks respectively and PB’s with 4, 5, 6 and 7.5 sacks and his name isn’t Dan Hampton. lol How is this possible?? Anything less than 1st Ballot HOF is an injustice for J.J. Watt.
I will be stunned if Willie Anderson gets in over Richmond Webb since they are both known as pass protectors. Some people are sure pushing for him for him to be up every year with a 3/4 profile. I’m sorry but there should be a minimum of at least five PB’s for a Lineman to be a HOFer. Some of the people the HOf elect are very questionable.
I expect to see DE Allen , CB Allen, WR Holt and TE Gates to make it. And I would like to see coach Mike Holmgren and Jim Tyrer with an additional modern day player Darren. Woodson.
About Evans, I figured there must be more involved in the celebration like a 3 million dollar bonus but the announcers were selling it as the record.
I saw that too, TonyP … I admire Evans, who should get into the HOF but they looked dumb celebrating like they won the SB. They played lousy today and have to be better if the want to beat the Commanders next week. I know the Chiefs game didnt mean anything today, but we will see if this laydown could be an omen for things to come?
It is the record in that Evans did it since his rookie season, where Rice didnt. Evans will get the consecutive season record next year but nobody really cares. Barkley and Philly fans really wanted that rushing record but it doesnt mean as much for 17 games. The playoffs matter more.
Jeff you only get one prediction-need to decide on 6 or 7 as your selection, thats part of the challenge here
Evans barely (needed 17th game) to get 1000y in 2024, so seems pretty premature to think he gets record next season. Part of me wanted that pass to be pick 6 INT and cost TB the game-trying to force a meaningless catch with seconds left in the game, would have served them right if it all meant bad LOL
At this point with Willie Anderson a finalist (and made final 10 in 2024 election), although we all may not agree, should not surprise anyone that clearly he’s getting elected before Webb – whose chances as modern candidate are quickly fading.
“Kansas City Chiefs Neil Smith 1/6 and Chargers Leslie O’Neal 0/6 with 700 tackles and 132 sacks. These guys should have a good shot as time goes by at least I hope. “…doomed to the seniors pool, their chances for eventual election drop considerably-was challenge with 2 and 3 seniors per year given dozens deserving, but now even less with likely only 1 senior in many years (and 2 in few others)
and here is what we could potentially have for first year eligible for class of 2030 (based on 2024 as last season)..again depends on which do decide to retire…and could be others..
2030- QB Aaron Rodgers (GB)?**, TE Travis Kelce (KC)?**, LB Von Miller (DEN)??*, OG Zack Martin (DAL)*??, S Bobby Wagner (SEA)*, DE Calais Campbell (ARZ) ???, DE Cameron Jordan (NO)……. ** likely first ballot, *likely PFHOFer
Damn, that’s a good lineup for 2030!! Bobby Wagner 6/9 is one of the best tackling LB’s ever and I have him as a first ballot HOFer.
Paul,
We matched! I think the only question I have is if we will see a 5th modern? If so, for me its Anderson. The rest we agree: Holt, Jared Allen, Antonio Gates and Woodson. For the Seniors and CC, I do think it will be Holmgren and Sharpe. I do no like this Senior set up, I still believe it should be 2 minimum. You can put the CC together and have one is valid candidate, but this not helping clean up the Senior pool at all.
class of 2030 could be loaded, doubt we would have more than 3 first ballot elections (out of max 5) so depending on other 1st year on the ballot, good chance that the likes of Zack Martin and Bobby Wagner wait..as Rodgers, Travis Kelce are locks and I suspect Von Miller would have the edge.
I see the argument that 9 member classes are too large, but would hope after a few years of this ridiculous new election process that the Hall is aware and smart enough (having seen too many deserving finalists rejected just because of the limited # of slots) to revise back to max 5 moderns+2 seniors+1 coach/contributor(rotate alternate years) =8 or even go with 4+2+1 model=7
Its my understanding that class of 2025 election meeting (virtual) is next week
Paul where did you find this out and what’s the date
From a source and I don’t know the exact date (suspect Hall and voters prefer not to disclose) – might see Twitter posts during or after meeting by voters
The Class Of 2030 will be interesting Paul but other than maybe, Miller, I see all those players coming back next year, including Rodgers with the Jets. Martin I feel, will help another team and the Dolphins would be foolish not to try to keep Campbell. Jordan might be on another team as well. Wagner would be All-Pro this year, if not for Warner and Smith at MLB.
John Turney picked an interesting All-Pro team and the AP team should be out next week, with alot of 1st team players trying to help their HOF resumes.
My WC round predictions
Chargers over Texans
Ravens over Steelers
Bills over Broncos
Packers upsetting Eagles
Commanders over Bucs
Vikings over Rams
My Awards Picks
MVP — Barkley Philly
OPOY — Jackson Balt
DPOY — Van Ginkel Minn
COTY — O’ Connell Vikings
ROTY — Daniels Commanders
DROTY — Mitchell Eagles
yea hence my cautious note about potential first ballot eligible for class of 2030 as we really don’t know about many yet-will be interesting to see what Rodgers does (certainly will not be back with NYJs) and my sense with Zack Martin is that his going to retire, as to Campbell and Jordon, hard to say with mid 30+ age vets what they may decide-or team decide for them (but neither has great shot at 1st ballot election when they are finally eligible).
so could be locks as 2030 first ballot could just end up T Kelce and Von Miller….
First let’s start with how the cutdown might go
Cut from 15 to 10 Eric Allen Eli Manning Steve Smith Sr Fred Taylor Adam Vinatieri
Cut from 10 to 7 Willie Anderson Jahri Evans Marshal Yanda
Cut from 7 to 5 Luke Kuechly Terrell Suggs
Since all the others have done it here’s my prediction for the Class of 2024
Mike Holmgren
Sterling Sharpe
Jim Tyrer
Jared Allen
Antonio Gates
Torry Holt
Reggie Wayne
Darren Woodson
I was going to include Maxie Baughan but upon reading about Jim Tyrer and what his family and others have said about him I choose to include him yes what did was wrong but he was suffering from CTE I chose to forgive him I would suggest reading online what his family and others have said him
Notice I didn’t include any first ballot Hall of Famers that’s because I think it’ll primarily be a clean up year and we won’t see any first ballot Hall of Famers until Drew Brees and Larry Fitzgerald in 2026
AP 1st Team All-Pro Team
Offence
QB — Jackson
RB — Barkley
FB — Ricard
WR — Chase
Jefferson
St. Brown
TE — Bowers
OT — Sewell
Wirfs
OG — Thuney
Meinerz
OC — Humphrey
Defence
Edge — Garrett
Hendrickson
DI — Jones
Heyward
LBs — Warner
Smith
Baun
SS — Joseph
FS — McKinney
CB — Surtain II
Stingley II
Humphrey
P — Fox
K — Boswell
This will be Jackson’s third nomination and he could have his third MVP award as well. Can he get the Ravens to the SB?
Others with two or more designations …
Jones with KC, now has three. He should eventually make the HOF.
His teammates, Thuney at guard and Humphrey at center also have two.
Jefferson, Wirfs and Sewell help their own cases with two 1st team selections on offense.
We all know Garrett and Watt will make the HOF. Garrett gets his 4th honor, while Watt gets a 2nd Team nomination.
Warner now gets his 4th honor, which should help him make the HOF. I felt Kittle should have gotten his 3rd honor but got another 2nd team nomination.
Heyward had a nice, bounce-back season and helps his HOF case, though its tough for interior defenders.
Derrick Henry strenghens his HOF case with a 2nd team nomination, along with Josh Allen, who also holds the longest, consecutive starts streak for QBs. I feel he will be MVP.
Lane Johnson with a 2nd team nomination, helps his HOF case, though John Turney felt he was 1st team. Wagner keeps chugging along as one of the best ever linebackers with a 2nd team nod.
I goofed … Humphrey at center for KC doesnt have two 1st team nominations. Roquan Smith now has three designations but like Lamar Jackson, needs that SB win to help get him elected in the future.
Jackson as first team AP likely gets his third NFL MVP – doesn’t need SB to eventually get into PFHOF – he would now be a lock.
I’ve thought a lot about this, and I think we might have chaos this year, which in the long run might be the best way of making the “corrections” to the new voting system that are clearly necessary.
Cut from 15 to 10: Manning, Smith, Taylor, Vinatieri, and Yanda
Cut from 10 to 7: Eric Allen, Kuechly, and Suggs
This leaves the following final seven: J. Allen, Anderson, Evans, Gates, Holt, Wayne, and Woodson (i.e., 2 lineman and 2 wide receivers). If those four split the vote (even 75 / 25), we only get a three person class:
Jared Allen, Antonio Gates, and Darren Woodson.
Non-Moderns: This is a complete crapshoot. I would be happy with any. I struggle to decide between the five. Therefore, it seems highly likely that the voters will feel the same way. I think it is possible that only one is actually selected, I’ll go with Sharpe.
My 2025 Predictions: Jared Allen, Antonio Gates, Darren Woodson, and Sterling Sharpe.
If this doesn’t cause systemic, obvious changes, nothing will. Hope I’m wrong, but without collusion, the math is not friendly.
Have confirmed Class of 2025 election (virtual) meeting is Tuesday – Jan 14th
Khalil Mack says he’s not sure of his future and is considering retirement.
I think Mack will be back for the Chargers, BoKnows34 … he realizes what this defense and team can become, though Herbert had a bad playoff game. Will the team bring back Joey Bosa, who cant never stay healthy?
Will the Steelers bring back Russell Wilson? Like Clark Judge pointed out today on TOFTWO, Wilson has fizzled out in late games going 2-13 his last three seasons in games in Dec and Jan. He simply has not been the same QB since getting hurt for Seattle during the 2021 season, his first losing season as starter. He says he still has plenty of football to play. I would give him one more year in Pittsburgh.
Mike McCarthy is out in Dallas, Paul.
Does JJ give up some control and bring in Ben Johnson? Could they make an offer to Kellen Moore?
They mentioned Deion Sanders for HC of Dallas but that seems unlikely to me I think Witten would be a bad choice unless I’m missing something on his ability to motivate.. I wonder if Bill is wishing he didn’t take the NC job? Everyone will be mentioned as a candidate because it’s the Cowboys. It sure didn’t sound like JJ would ever step aside barring a health crisis.
I don’t see Dallas as an attractive landing spot because they have so much money tied up with Prescott and Lamb and Parson heading for a big payday. He already said Dak was going to have to figure out how to do more with less. . I don’t think Dak is the QB to lead them to a SB anymore. They had a really good shot a few times with a really good lineup. I’m not sure what the answer is? I didn’t think McCarthy did a bad job. He can’t play QB.
I’m torn between my Texans and my Chiefs. I hate it when they meet. Who do you think the Chiefs have a better chance of beating, the Bills or the Ravens?
And the cinderella season ends for Sam Darnold and the Vikings. 14-2 before slumping their last two games. Will the Vikings bring him back? Vikings fans have to be shaking their heads over a season that had so much promise.
The Chiefs at home will be ready for any team. I think they would rather avenge their loss to the Bills.
I went 3-3 in my wild card picks.
Divisional playoff picks
Chiefs
Lions
Eagles
Bills
Can the Ravens sweep the Bills in Rich Stadium?
Welcome to Election Day
Brian: I would think front runners include Kellen Moore and Jason Witten, not so sure the top candidates on the market would be interested in job or be a target for Jerry..Ben Johnson is likely the best man for the job in many ways but I simply don’t see him getting the job. Aaron Green or Al Harris, perhaps the default will be Mike Zimmer. Personally not a fan of the HC retreads on the market, Deion seems like more of a media and PR stunt for both him and Jerry (and gives Deion leverage in Boulder, plus gives him sense of legitimacy for future HC job at P5 school or NFL). But you never know with Jerry but seems like he will drag this out for as long as he can for all the attention it will draw from NFL media and fans
In terms of talent and having key positions filled (and with a solid scouting department and excellent draft track record) Dallas would be well positioned for a new coach as its not needing a complete rebuild. Yea they are again not going to be big players on the FA market and have many holes in roster to field (as to all non-playoff teams), but in a division that has no current strong leader, and yes they are up against the cap but work can be done there to easily clearly plenty of cap space. Of course the biggest issues and challenge in Dallas, to being successful, is Jerry.
With election now complete – we wait three weeks until official announcement on NFL Honors show Thurs Feb 6th 9-11p EST on Fox and NFL Network – good luck to all the finalists and thank you to the voters for their service and efforts
Keep your ears to the ground, election sleuths! Someone is bound to have a slip of the tongue, especially players and families who were rejected.
I actually think Baughan will finally get elected …
Its always possible Brian, but during last 4 years of election on this timeline (3 week gap between vote and announcement) have been shocked how little has come out-we would get a few on the day of or just before the presentation on NFL Honors show..but 3 weeks, with social media is a long time-and with the knock views being filmed for players, family and friends to say something but largely has not been the case-but could happen.
I understand that the voters do not know the final electionresults, submitted their ballots for up to 3 from the pool of 5 seniors/coach/contributor but were not told those results, likewise ballots for up to 5 from the 7 modern candidates and they were also not told those results.
Paul, based on everything you know, and you know about about the HOF and how it works, do you have a revised Class of 2025 list or are your staying with these:
“My predictions: Gates Holt JAllen DWoodson Holmgren Sharpe”-Paul
I Iike Gates, Holt, Jared Allen and D. Woodson, I would say Anderson if there is a 5th. For the CC: Holmgren and Sharpe, but I hope that Baughen gets in too. This would be a huge clean up the cue year and I think its needed.
Three weeks to reveal! Marie #SaintMaria01
sticking with mine.. and so far we have 6 submissions (me,Brian,Marie,Jeff,Justin,AndyP) with 5 unique outcomes-should be interesting, reminder for anyone looking to participate, post here by Jan 31st (include moderns and seniors/coach/contributor)
and not looking to change mine-with new rules and uncertainty just really hard to know how it will play out this year, for me greatest unknown is 5 or 4 moderns, and if 2 seniors (Sharpe/Baughen)
My prediction is Kuechly, Gates, Allen, Holt, Anderson, Sharpe, Baughan, Holmgren.
Don’t know how gauche it would be to indulge in this sort of self-promotion here, but I’m starting a new project to elect a “shadow Hall of Fame” based on Bill Simmons’ idea to stratify Halls of Fame into five tiers: https://www.morganwick.com/2025/01/introducing-morgan-wicks-shadow-pro-football-hall-of-fame/ If you want to contribute, here’s the initial ballot: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1RTMjZE1CJ5BLMndo2GzLg7K8ZYDk8_DDxBvEt5J40to/
On this day 5 year ago in 2020 the Centennial Class was unveiled and some snubs were corrected while others weren’t
In my opinion the Blue Ribbon Panel did a solid overall job in electing 15 worthy players coaches and contributors I really didn’t have a problem with any of the selections but I respect your opinions
Since then Drew Pearson Tom Flores Cliff Branch Dick Vermeil Don Coryell and Randy Gradishar who were finalists for the Centennial Class have been elected with Mike Holmgren hopefully to follow
I did a calculation 22 of the of the 38 Centennial Class finalists have been elected or 57% of the candidates
However we haven’t seen a pre 60s finalist be elected since the Centennial Class the only times we’ve seen a pre 60s finalist was when Buddy Parker was the coach contributor finalist last year and he wasn’t elected and Ralph Hay this year I think he won’t be elected too
I’ve now come to realize the only way Lavvie Dilweg Verne Lewellen Ox Emerson Cecil Isbell and Al Wistert are going to get in is via a special election for pre 60s candidates with voters like Rick Gosselin and Clark Judge and historians like Bill Belichick Chris Willis John Turney and Ken Crippen like the Blue Ribbon Panel that elected the Centennial Class
I’m working on a letter to Jim Porter asking that he have an election for pre 60s candidates
Since 2020 19 seniors have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame but there’s still a lot of work to be done
Good luck with as with the new rules it’s clear Porter has sold out to the small hall folks in media, some voters and some current PFHOFers
If he was truly committed to seeing deserving seniors elected, he first would have completed the final year (class of 2025) with rules in place for 3 seniors-rather than go to board a year early to completely revamp the election process OR advocated for a revised process where at least 2 seniors had direct path to election…having 3 seniors battle directly with a coach and contributor for 3 slots, and chances some fail to reach 80% meaning only 1 or 2 of those group could be elected (including NO seniors) tells us all exactly how Porter now views seniors-most undeserving
Agree with Paul. We have likely entered a “small hall” period (like the 80s and 90s). The backlog of seniors was created then, and we are still dealing with its ramifications (including the under representation of 1980s and early 1990s players). Hopefully either the voters will figure out how to “game” the system or the hall will revert back to 15/10/5/up or down voting. Without one or the other, the math tells us there will be lots of “wasted” spots in the modern election.
Yea I remain hopeful that the system self corrects or Hall steps in to revise rules so at least we are assured far better chance at 2 seniors per year, but I think that’s the best we can hope for and I don’t foresee even that happening for a few more years..I just don’t see direct path to election for 3 seniors a year or a large special seniors class of any type
I worry less about 4 moderns per year as with 20 years of eligibility still plenty of time for deserving to be elected EXCEPT those like Eric Allen quickly running out of eligibility right now, fewer moderns elected next few years will increase chances these guys here all end up in seniors pool as time is quickly running out (not those who just recently became moderns)
At great risk (and the ones who I view as deserving-including chance to have case heard would be Steve Wiz, EAllen,RWatters,Webb, DWoodson-note he is best position among these currently as final 10 in 2024 and including 2025 has 4 elections left a modern)
2026 (2001) Steve Wisniewski, Carnell Lake, Mark Stepnoski, Randall Cunningham, Erik Williams, Eric Allen, Ricky Watters
2027 (2002) Lomas Brown, Herman Moore, Eric Metcalf, Levon Kirkland, Richmond Webb, Hardy Nickerson
2028 (2003) Jessie Armstead, Wesley Walls, Brian Mitchell, Michael Bates, Dana Stubblefield, Larry Centers, Darren Woodson
and history has shown us (eg Albert Lewis) getting moved as semi-finalist into finalist stage last year on modern ballot is way too late-same for Everson Walls and Clay Matthews Jr, as ideally voters need to be aware of time running out on moderns and move them into semi-finalists 3+ yr before, and at least 2 years as seniors…and if 4 moderns per year that timeline above becomes even more important and likely even earlier
So Woodson and EAllen are well positioned right now for at least decent chance of election in coming years (and as returning finalists are having their cases presented and discussed repeatedly for a few years)….if we assume all 11 finalists in 2025 return in 2026 plus add 2026 first ballot finalists Brees, Fitz + maybe Witten and Gore..= 15 (and I didn’t even include Rivers)…thus going to be really hard for anyone, who has not yet been a finalist, even Webb, to crack into 2025 final 15.
And chances for SteveW and Ricky Watters (2026 last ballot year) to squeeze on finalist ballot are even slimmer-and besides as I posted before, getting onto finalist 15 ballot in your last year of modern eligibility had not resulted in those candidates being elected. (even if 5 moderns are elected from 2025 ballot, that still means only 1 extra open slot on 2026 potential 15 finalists list)
It will be strange if Eli Manning is elected first ballot. Will Ben Roethlisberger as well? What about Rivers and Ryan? We know Brees and Brady will …
First Ballot If I Voted
Brees
Brady
Rodgers (Not Eligible)
Mahomes (Not Eligible)
Elected Later
Big Ben
Wilson (Not Eligible)
Allen (Not Eligible)
Jackson (Not Eligible)
Just Misses
E Manning
Stafford (Not Eligible)
Rivers
Ryan
If Stafford could win another SB, he will make it, and E Manning will get in within four years.
Wow … and the divisional playoffs have begun. The Texans decide to leave Travis Kelce wide open for much of the game and lose, while the Lions overlook the Commanders and get their ass beat. Probably the biggest playoff upset since the Titans beating the Ravens in the 2019 divisional round.
If Ben Johnson leaves the Lions, they wont be nearly the same team but we will see. The Bobby Layne curse is still alive.
Brian Wolf: totally disagree about Ben Johnson and the Lions. They didn’t overlook anyone. They just don’t have an NFL caliber defense right now because of the injuries. For example, I think they have two of their original 10 defensive lineman from the post camp roster left. And Jayden Daniels played a lot better than Darnold (the only qb Detroit has stopped in the last two months).
The Lions lost because Ben Johnson got in his own way. All he had to do was hand the ball Gibbs and watch him run it down my Commanders’ throats. But he couldn’t do it. If the Lions self scout and start playing football like they are the more talented team (which they are), they’ll be fine. Assuming they have the heir apparent in house, they may be better next year without Johnson and a presumably healthier defense.
Good call Justin … yeah, Gibbs was dominating but Goff lost the game.
Once Robertson went down, this secondary never adjusted to run or pass. Despite minimal carries, the Lions had over 200 yards rushing and still lost …
Good playoff games this weekend, with the Bills getting another chance to beat the Chiefs in postseason.
I predict they will this time.
The Rams and Ravens had chances but turnovers killed them. Had the Ravens cut the Bills lead to 21-20 with the extra point instead of chasing for two, they may not have had to try for two again after their last minutes, TD but Andrews couldnt convert. As in 2020/21 against the Bills, a tough loss.
I think the Commanders will upset the Birds next sunday!
Brian Wolf: I love your optimism, but I’m not so sure. Philly is a deeply flawed team, but I’m not sure Washington is well equipped to exploit those flaws. However, Philly also has to deal with Washington and Jayden Daniels. I think it will be close, but I’m not as confident as you that the Commanders come out on top.
Key will be for Eagles defense to press Daniels (as rookie QB) into mistakes and perhaps INT-take advantage of his inexperience by showing different schemes and coverage, and also use their home field as edge
Paul: easier said than done. Daniels is not your typical rookie qb. He already has more no punt/no turnover games (3) than Manning, Montana, Brady, and Mahomes combined (2). Obviously some of that has to do with modern offenses going on fourth down more than in prior years, but that is still an incredible achievement as a rookie. If the Eagles rely on their defense to win, they could be in trouble. I see the key as being whether the Eagles can simply control the ball with their ground game and play mistake free. If they can, they will win. If they get cute (like Detroit did) or make mistakes, the Commanders have a real chance.
Yes on offense I agree that controlling the ball via rushing attack is needed but like the Lions found out (200 yr rushing and 3 rush TDs), defense stopping Daniels and forcing bad decisions and INTs is the key as they simply can not let them move up and down the field at will. Eagles played well against Wash in the two games this season (lost one on last sec TD) so they can match up and beat them.
We will see if Mitchell returns for Philly. If not, possibly another tough day in the secondary. Yes, its the playoffs and Daniels has to throw in the elements but he threw for 5 TDs in their last matchup, which stopped their winning streak.
Whats intriguing, is all the veteran leaders on this WFT. Those guys are itching to get to a SB. Can they get it done?
I want to bet on the Bills but worry about Swiftie Hoodoo … haha
I don’t think Matthew Stafford needs to win another SB to get into Canton on the modern ballot. I do think he needs to play at least next year and eclipse 400 TDs. That would put him in great, great company. Handful of QBs have 400 TDs and a SB win.
As for the class this year: Manning
Holt
Gates
Vinatieri
Woodson
I think its going to remain very challenging for Stafford to get into PFHOF unless he gains a SB, first team all pro or MVP (both seem increasingly unlikely at this point). Especially he’s pondering retirement, if he returns average stats would continue to move him up the career stats but with so many recent and current peer QBs in the top 10, I suspect that accomplishment is not going to be viewed as significant by voters as it once was-unless one cracks into top 3-very unlikely for Stafford. Before he gets on the ballot, voters will be tested with recent QBs starting with Eli and Rivers (BenR, Brees,Brady are all assured of election)
Brad is that an entry for our contest, if so can you also include any seniors/coach/contributor you predict for election-thanks
So we get the see the Mahomes, Reid, Kelce and Chiefs make history
Yep … (sigh) Thank goodness I didnt bet on todays games. I am pulling for the Eagles but the Chiefs will get it done. The Bills blow another chance, chasing points instead of kicking extra points. I am so tired of listening to Jim Nantz call Patriots and Chiefs championship games that I listened to the radio broadcast.
Big win for Hurts after hurting his knee, last week. Can he get revenge against the Chiefs for early, 2023?
I know it sounds silly but with the Eagles-Chiefs SB, I believe Baughan and Jared Allen will make the HOF … haha, though I already predicted it.
I was pulling for a Lake Erie SB…but any SB that has opportunity to make history is also worth it. and at very least it will be an entertaining game
I would say the Eagles will dominate in the Super Bowl but it’s the Chiefs. LOL I’m rooting for a historic three-peat. Then I will change my allegiance to the Texans. :)
However the SB turns out it’s been a great run for a Team in middle America. I wonder how long Andy Reid will coach?
I don’t think Matthew Stafford will have to wait long for the HOF.
Possible Eagles domination ended with Wash win…not saying they can’t win but hard to believe Chiefs will lose in landslide…they certainly could lose (Barkely runs wild or TOs) but with Mahomes and Reid KC is rarely out of game early, especially in playoffs… and yea win SB win could be that Reid steps aside… I suspect we have much different views of what we mean by long wait for Stafford to be elected..keeping in mind when he is eligible voters will have already elected Eli, Brees,BenR,Brady from his era, and considered Rivers and Ryan..with limited modern slots and many other deserving from 2010s+ on ballots, could be by then voters have QB fatigue…I have no idea what he faces but seems like several years at least wait..maybe even longer…heck I think even Eli is facing 3-4 years wait and their cases are comparable except Eli has huge edge with the 2X SB MVP. Again I think voters will be tested with Rivers and Ryan first…how they view those could have impact on Stafford (although yes he has edge with SB win)
prepare yourselves folks for outcome most will not be pleased with next Thursday..I have no leaks to report but just an increasing sense that class will be as small as 5 or 6, with perhaps only 3 or 4 moderns, 1 coach and 1 or even 0 senior…new election process (which shocking to me many voters still not clear on, although after election meeting they were more aware of the “math”)..every year brings sock and awe….just prepare yourself—-just saying…..yep chance I am wrong on all this and we get bigger class (which would be great)….but be ready…
LOL…..Shock and Awe
No “shock” for those of us here…the math just doesn’t work. We’ve been discussing. See my prediction above. This is going to be terrible for the nominees. Apparently Sando is working on an article for the Athletic that will address all of this. There has to be changes or much greater coordination among the voters.
Paul we’ll just see what happens you know what they say life is full of surprises
Justin I agree with that
Like you said Justin, it will be collusion with deals for next year.
I hope at least seven but we will see.
Haha … at least put in the seniors but doubtful on Tyrer. Some people believe Vinny could be first ballot.
I doubt it though. Manning will bring some wheels and deals.
Lane Johnson should make the HOF but another win would be nice, he and Graham I think are the only players left from the 2017 team?
A chance for redemption from 2022 for Darius Slay as well.
Not sure sure we will see collusion deals that result in enough voters to get 5 reaching 80%. Rules (if enforced, which is another topic) do not allow coordination among voters.
Having picked up on some very general impressions from a few voters, we need to be prepared to adjust from recent outcomes where 5 moderns and classes as large as 7,8,or 9 have resulted-to a much different result. Plus surprising to many, has been a growing recognition over the last few weeks, with public comments and interactions with some voters, how many went into election not realizing the new rules and implications, and some after the meeting just know realizing some very deserving will not be elected due to new process, and class to be as small as 5 or 6-outcome we have not seen in many years.
Some voters, many in media and many fanbases are going to outraged at the results-and be very public and vocal about it-at a level we have never seen before-and not because of those elected (hint Eli will not be elected) but those bypassed. Lets remember all that anger needs to be directed at the Hall leadership as it was them (and not the voters who were not consulted or even informed in advance of changes being considered that were eventually approved). Yes look for some pretty strong worded public posts and stories from high profile voters including those who already post stories after the announcement
Hold on folks as going to get very heated a week from now, the likes of which we have not seen or heard before
(check out voter Frank Cooney on Substrack as he has been regularly posting stories on PFHOF election process or Mike Tanier also on Substrack who recently posted about the election meeting a few weeks ago )
My prediction is Sharpe, Baughan, Holmgren, Holt, Woodson, Jared Allen and Antonio Gat
Thanks Bill – added you to our competition (along with entries from me,Brian,Marie,Jeff Justin,AndyP, Brad), for any others interesting in joining our result predication contest, deadline for entries is tomorrow Jan 31st..good luck to all and to date we have 7 unique entries out of 8 submitted
Sharpe, Holmgren, Holt, D.Woodson, Jared Allen and Antonio Gates for me.
thanks
Paul: thank you for mentioning Mike Tanier. Didn’t know about his work previously. Good access and insight.
Where you at, Robert The Greatest?
as per Tanier, he’ active on social media with Hall stuff, especially with Talk of Fame and his own website ProfootballJournal..for class of 2024 election he served as “non-voting” advisor to the senior committee and was then appointed as voting member to the new senior BRP for class of 2025…has written extensively other the years on elections and candidates and has long time connections with many voters..so occasionally he drops some Hall insights
I like all the Senior Nominees but if I were to guess I’d say Sharpe,Holmgren Tyrer.
Guys I think we got our first clue this is going to be a small class I looked at the schedule for NFL Network to see when the Hall of Fame Knocks will be on it will be on Saturday as usual but it’s going to be 30 minutes instead of an hour like usual look at the schedule and you’ll see what I’m talking about
Andy P, good sleuthing. Horrible result from a horrible idea.
That is so disappointing. Just going to create more back logs. I also feel bad for the actual players who may have to wait, or may never get in while alive. I really think some of the current hall of famers have an impact on this because of things they have said to the media about the Hall not being selective enough.
Bill: Undoubtedly. But loud mouth schnooks, are going to loud mouth schnook…wonder if he’ll change his tune when it comes to his sons…
From my understanding. yes Deion was loud and public with his views that too many were getting elected…but he was not the only PFHOF, member of media or voter to press the Hall on this concern-there were others (behind the scenes). For me one of the most disturbing aspects is the lack of transparency of the Hall with the voters, as a body they were not consulted about proposed changed and not even informed when they were made.
Just a note to whoever is tracking the guesses–I just approved a comment from Morgan Wick (from 1/15/2025) with his guess in it–was held up in moderation because of the links in his comment, and I just noticed it.
go it…
got it..
This whole mess would have never got started if the HOF had not added a contributor category. Once non-players and non-coaches got elected, classes got larger which leads to this too-many-elected backlash.
This years class will probably be the smallest since 2012. Like I wrote on PFJ, the bar has been lowered for deserving players as well, which has contributed to the problem. Too many voters subjectively go for favorites, whether the players meet the highest standards or not. Too much emphasis is on statistical milestones, rather than a standard of excellence or larger peak. Being a subjective HOF, these things happen but now it will affect future deserving players. Hopefully, the seniors can continue to have at least two enshrinees per year but the moderns will be reduced.
What I have picked up from some voters (limited) is the suggestion that the large senior class in 2020, followed by 3 in 2023 and potential for 3 in class of 2024 is really what set off some in terms of push for more selective elections and fewer elected. Does not seem be centered around moderns-their number or debates of those elected being deserved.
But seems to me one fair center ground would be 4 moderns+2 seniors+1coach/contributor-only in terms of reaching compromise with the small Hall folks….would certainly not address deserving candidates falling into seniors pool…..alas…
Will need to see if enough voters, and supporters for deserving candidates (including teammates in PFHOF), complain after a few years of electing 5 or 6, to push PFHOF into reconsidering process
Reporting that Willie Anderson was not elected …
According to Steve Hartman of Fox Sports Radio, Eli Manning was eliminated in the first cut from 15 to 7. So he was not elected no surprise.
Hartman also reported that Vinatieri made the cut to 7.
This is what one selector said in Mike Tanier’s article about Eli Manning
“Everybody knows we have a backlog. Why in God’s name did they come up with this format? My concern is that they made this change because they feel there are too many speeches at the ceremony. That’s a sad reason to do this.”
Rob the new process is actually 15 to 10 to 7 to 5
Thanks Rob and Justin …
So, possibly no Eli –thank god–no Anderson, who I picked and possibly no Vinny?
Without Anderson at tackle, there is probably no guards in Yanda or Evans? Doubtful on Suggs and Kueckly as well? Will they pick one receiver or two?
I emailed the Pro Football Hall of Fame asking why the Hall of Fame knocks show is only 30 minutes instead of an hour and is on at 10 instead of 9 and they me it was a network decision so we’ll just see how many members are in the Class of 2025
And Bruce made comment to TMZ that inferred that Thursday will be great day for Holt.
Plus pretty sure we can count Gates as in
I’m not sure what to make of Bruce’s comments after listening to them. He seemed pretty confident (after Holt himself was fairly confident on NFL network). I’d be so pleased as I’ve long been pushing for him.
I think Gates and Allen are as close as there is to “locks” this year.
Intrigued by the Vinatieri comments as well. Could he actually sneak all the way to election?
Andy I don’t think a shorter thing necessarily means a smaller class since it was a network decision.
I’m also thinking Inducting Tyrer would cause a massive headache
Robert what you do mean and good to see you back you haven’t been here in a while where were you you’ve been on PFRA thought why PFRA and not here on ZoneBlitz
dealing with some health issues is where i was at and i was waiting to come back here for the official hof class to be announced
rumors are rumors – and will be more in coming days, especially day of and hours before announcement thursday evening….so take it all as you like… but does look we have a class shaping up that will look like: Gates, Holt..seems JAllen is likely as is AdamV…and no Willie Anderson and no Eli. At least for me, none of these are surprising at this point..those would get us to four modern..and I think its safe to assume mike holmgren and sharpe are elected-class of 6….guess at this point my biggest surprise would be if we get no coach and/or senior..but just seems unlikely to me that is the outcome.
I think NFL Network show last February was also 1/2 hr..not sure we need to read anything into that as we all are well aware a class of 5 or 6 is what we are going to get with math of this new crappy election process
Correct Paul last year’s show was also a half hour and yes I agree Rumors are Rumors until the official announcement on Thursday
but we are certainly seeing (like has been case to some degree in recent years) strong indications floating out that can’t simply be outright dismissed-but also respect anyone who views them as what they are-rumors-and not interested in assessing or sharing…
100% agreed Paul that’s why I was waiting till now to post
If only if Deion Sanders hadn’t sounded off on the Pro Football Hall of Fame the changes wouldn’t have happened
Paul did you see my comment about the quote by one selector from Mike Tanier’s article and we’ll just how many members are in the Class of 2025 on Thursday you know what they say life is full of surprises
andy it just wasnt deion sanders that was saying that other hall of famers and people like my self were hoping for classes to improve somewhat no need to overreact sometimes
Robert you right I guess did overreact some of the changes are just wrong
It may not mean anything, but maybe John Turney heard something? He just did an article about Vinatieri. Tucker of course, is the most accurate kicker in history but went through his worst season and is in a heap of trouble, though no one has pressed charges yet. If he settles, maybe the civil suits can be forgotten but allegations had to have affected this season. Could he really play another 12 seasons like Vinny did?
Oh I think Turney having a story advocating for AdamV just days before the announcement means something very much so..
And AndyP I saw your post of a comment from Tanier’s Substract story..I don’t think the issue is the number of speeches but more the view from some voters and PFHOFers that classes were getting too large, some elected were not deserving and honor was watered down. Not that I or many others, including a number of predominant voters, agree but for what ever reason Hall decided to flip to model where we should be expecting a class of 5 or 6 and certainly not 7 -8. Time will tell if they re-adjust, I suspect eventually they will,but doubt classes of 8 or more with 3 seniors is not coming back
(and Tucker’s career is over)
If anyone is interested in a cogent explanation of the consequences of the new voting rules, HOF voter Darin Gantt (Carolina rep) has a wonderful piece on panthers.com. Assume he is preparing his readers for the high likelihood that Kuechly and Smith will not make it this year. Really good read.
Thanks!!
Also that story has link to the PFHOF website page on the selection process..
I have been keeping an eye and checking on that specific PFHOF page (selection process) for a while as it was quite out of date-and guessing given the media attention coming with announcement tomorrow night-it has finally been updated to reflect process and committee members (voters) for class of 2025 election
(and I think 49 and not 50 participated in the voting as Peter King resigned as voter after the August 2024 meeting of the Board when they would appoint new members of the selection committee)
Here’s the article Justin was talking about
https://www.panthers.com/news/chances-of-making-the-hall-of-fame-rules-change-luke-kuechly-steve-smith
TIFIW: Darren Woodson’s wife posted on Instagram that they are flying into New Orleans. We may get a surprise.
I’ve become a wait and see person with these rumors over the years some if them were true others were not can anyone blame me
Mike Sando’s piece detailing the new voting procedures is out. It is similar to Gantt’s piece from yesterday. However, it has a very notable addition: it provides the tiebreakers in case the minimum threshold of 3 moderns don’t receive 80% of the votes. And as mind blowing as it is, those tiebreakers include alphabetical by last night! While it is highly unlikely to happen, the hall’s rules, at least in theory, would deny someone the HOF because their last name falls after another candidate’s alphabetically. That has to be a PR nightmare. If it ever came to that, just put both candidates in.
Welcome to the DAY everyone! Lets hope it’s a great one for as many deserving candidates as possible!!
Hear, hear, Paul!
What I would watch for today is any indication that Sharpe was elected…otherwise as hours close in on the NFL Honors show, and increasingly as we get into early evening, possible we start getting cascade of rumors and even some confirmed results….but just be a little careful about reading too much into everything perhaps posted in social media over next several hours-consider the source
Maxie Baughan son tweeted still waiting. Looks like Baughan didn’t get the necessary votes.
If Baughan failed to get the votes, the voters should renominate him. This system is not the “up or down” vote of year’s past…
Perhaps, but I can also see it from the perspective of the Senior BRP-there are other deserving candidates, several who like Baughan never had their case presented, its a tough dilemma for BRP to see a finalist not gain support from full committee while sending him back up next election and deny someone else at least chance. But I agree its a difficult situation resulting from this new crappy process. Powell and Parker cases this election cycle would seem to suggest Baughan’s case is stalled and may stay that way for a while-very unfortunate
And I feel really terrible about Baughan and his family (same for Eddie Meador) as with Baughan I always believed he was stuck behind Howley and Gradishar, once they were elected he would finally have his path-but loss of the direct path for 3 seniors to be elected in class of 2025 which I am certainly he would have been one doomed him (which was final year of that setup until Porter tossed it all aside for new process)
Paul: I agree that the committee is likely to nominate different candidates next year, but they shouldn’t. This isn’t the same as Powell / Parker who had up or down votes. This vote was relative. And if the committee already judged him one of the three best seniors, then he should be nominated at least once more so the full panel can take into consideration the new voting rules.
Any prior year, Baughan would’ve been easily elected. A really bitter but predictable disappointment. Out of the three seniors, he’s the one I most wanted to see inducted. The new rules have to go.
Willie Anderson just posted the following:
“Getting a bunch of dms . Just know the guys who are blessed this year to be in the Hall of fame are already in New Orleans. We found out 2 weeks ago! I’m sure the 3 names will be released soon! Congratulations to all! It’s a blessing!”
3 names!
New voting procedure worse case scenario.
Two wasted slots that will never be filled. The 80s/90s all over again…
Yep can just confirm from another source I have (not a voter) that its 3 modern elected..likely we are looking at Gates/Holt/AdamV or JAllen….and not confirmation but strong speculation is class is also Sharpe and Holmgren… I think if we get more insights in the coming hours up to announcement (between 10-11p EST) it will reconfirm those 5..and yep 5 would be smallest class since 4 in 2005 (been 6+ every election since)
Agree Justin.
The new voting process is garbage.
yea…and I know we have worked the new election math including implications that spread across future elections (assuming for moment Hall doesn’t again change rules, possible but uncertain unknown at this time) but still stunning to consider what 3 instead of 5 means year to year..safe to assume Brees and Fitz are only deserving first ballot in class of 2026-which means we will have 4 of 7 finalists returning from 2025 as likely favorites for what again could be just ONE slot in 2026……WOW…and every election it continues the impacts getting deeper as 2027 has three strong 1st ballot contenders, 2028 has two, 2029 has two..we could have returning 4 from final 7 in 2025 taking another FOUR elections to get in..and that does not even count deserving returning current semi-finalists and other deserving candidates and eventual PFHOFers to appear on ballot 2026-2028
Lets hope its at least five … Woodson?
Paul, exactly. Now, I assume the voters will get smarter. They’ll learn to aggregate their votes. It isn’t that anyone disagrees about whether these individuals are HoFers. Only the order in which they get in. It is the down ballot guys who are impacted.
indications I have gathered today (and its incomplete and mix) is more likely only 3, perhaps 4…Gates,Holt,JAllen/AdamV… and Justin I don’t see how process or rules would get/allow 49 voters to collect around set candidates..seems like the new math needs to change in order to get back to at least 4 if not 5 moderns…likely happens but when it another matter.lets see how angry and loud the post election media attention is in coming days…
If it is only three then the 4th and 5th place candidates have been screwed.
It would also not surprise me if the third placed candidate did not reach 80% but was elected due to the minimum number required.
“It would also not surprise me if the third placed candidate did not reach 80% but was elected due to the minimum number required.” if we only get 3 thats very possible-but since vote totals are never made public, even to the voters, we would never know..
Reminder guys the Class of 2025 will be announced at NFL Honors starting at 9 pm on FOX like all of you I’ll be watching can’t wait for the announcement
Both Allens, Sharpe and Gates. A disappointing four member class!
Congratulations Inductees!
Eric Allen was the biggest surprise!
Floored. Not by who got in, but by the fact that my worst case scenario actually came to pass. Congrats to the four inductees. All worthy. Bummed for Holt. So worthy.
Nice to see Eric Allen make it, but otherwise very disappointing. Two wasted modern slots, so backlog gets worse. I can understand Tyrer not making it, but what’s the point of having a senior committee if you can’t find room for players like Maxie Baughan? Really hope they make changes next year.
Great call Justin … you predicted a small class from the get-go.
Congrats to the four but this is infuriating and so disappointing. Would’ve been great to induct Sharpe and Holmgren together.
Pleased for Eric Allen especially as time was running out fast on his modern era eligibility. With Larry Fitzgerald eligible next year I fear there will be disappointment again for Holt.
This voting may be more geared towards first ballot cinches. Brees will get in next year, but we will see if Fitz joins him. Kuechly will get in next year I believe.
Boknows: Great point about Fitzgerald–no doubt he should be a first ballot guy, but now, who knows? Gantt has reported the cut downs:
11-15: Manning, Smith, Suggs, Taylor, Wayne
8-10: Evans, Woodson, Yanda
4-7: Anderson, Holt, Kuechly, Vinatieri
Gantt is also reporting that unelected final 7 are “automatically finalists” next year (whatever that means). Guess will know more soon.
Thanks, Brian. I take no pride in being ride. Seriously disappointed actually. But math is still undefeated.
Imagine getting knocked out of voting by a kicker? Vinny is deserving though and Holt was close again!
More chat tomorrow but our contest was also a bust as 9 out of 10 entries tied at 3 predictions each as no one picked E Allen
Justin
I guess those 4 are automatic Top 15 finalists for next year. So there will be 11 places available.
Yeah, D.Woodson was my “outsider” pick.
Has there been any reaction on X/Twitter by the voters?
Sharpe in a sense, gets the last laugh over Holmgren, who released him due to his injury in 1994. Ron Wolf made the call though … at the time, they were both a little cold about it and you wonder if Sharpe might have tried to come back, had they been more supportive?
Still, what an opportunity for both to have been enshrined together?
With Sharpe voted in now, hopefully the senior committee can finally move forward with Dilweg, then Lewellen but Isbell will not go away yet …
Happy Josh Allen won MVP over Jackson … he was more deserving but I felt Barkley was more deserving than both of them.
Wasting 4 slots, only good thing is e allen finally got in.
2 terrible classes in a row turning down the best person 2 years in a row for no one. (Parker and hay)
Regarding our contest, it is going to be impossible with the new voting rules. That said, I’ll take a 75% correct out of my four election. Had Woodson over Eric Allen.