Thinking I had a chance to finally prove Bachslunch wrong on a Hall of Fame matter (I didn’t–I thought that the Hall could take seven inductees regardless of whether they are senior candidates or not, but they are considered seperately), I came across this article on the Hall of Fame Web site that outlines the voting process, and lists the Hall of Fame Board of Selectors.
Looking at the list of selectors, a few things jumped out at me:
- The representative for Atlanta is Len Pasquarelli, who works for ESPN, and if you read ProFootballTalk, you’ll know he has some history of standing up for guys with whom he’s buddy-buddy with their agent (like Todd Pinkston).
- The representative for the Jets is Paul Zimmerman (aka Dr. Z), who has been writing for Sports Illustrated since 1979
- The representative for the Patriots is a employee of HBO and Pro Football Weekly
- The Raiders and 49ers are represented by employees of The Sports Xchange–and another Sports Xchange employee has an At Large spot
- Also represented in the At Large spots are the San Francisco Chronicle, the Miami Herald (the second Miami Herald writer with a vote), the Florida Times Union and the Los Angeles Times.
This strikes me as a somewhat flawed list–several of the team “representatives” are actually national writers, who are allowed to maintain their spots even after they’ve left their local publication. Additionally, several of the At Large spots are occupied by people who may have a particular bias for their local team.
I’m not claiming that any of the voters does have an extreme bias–more than they should anyway–after all, I assume one of the reasons for having a representative from each team is to lessen the liklihood of there being claims of an East or West coast bias (and anyone who frequently reads the Star Tribune would likely agree that Sid Hartmann, who represents the Vikings, would probably be amongst the biggest homers on the list).
But looking at the list, I wonder if this is the best methodology for picking who gets into the Hall of Fame?
To keep things level, it would seem to me that each team’s representative should be working in a news outlet that is actively covering that team, rather than allow people who have moved on to national publications keep those spots.
Of course, as Andy pointed out, some of the beat writers might not have the background with all of the players from other teams, and often have enough to do without adding researching players for the Hall of Fame to their list of to-dos. Still, I think if they are going to have 32 “team representatives” on the list, they should be local guys.
As for the voters who leave for national media outlets, I would consider increasing the At Large spots, and still allowing them to keep their votes–after all, the national media in theory would have more time/resources to look into the full careers of guys.
Additionally, I would consider taking a page out of the Baseball Hall of Fame’s book, and give the enshrinees to the Hall of Fame a say in who else gets in–after all, who better to judge who really is Hall of Fame Worthy than those who played against them? There’s only so much that writers and reporters can do when it comes to judging the impact that a player had on the game, whereas the players themselves might know who actually impacted the gameplanning versus who may have padded their stats.
What else could the Hall of Fame do to improve the voting process? Other than realizing that there are some damn good NFL blogs out there that could possibly have a say, that is? Let us know in the comments.
I’m going to keep on banging this drum, because I frankly don’t get why other people aren’t upset about it.
When the Football Hall of Fame writers get together to discuss who desrves to get in, they often throw out the number of Pro Bowl appearances that a player had as proof of his greatness or lack thereof. I understand why they do this; it’s a reflection of what some people thought of the guy while he was playing, and for defensive players and offensive linemen, it’s one of very few stats actually available.
The problem with this practice is that the Pro Bowl voting has always been a little flawed to begin with, and it is becoming more and more meaningless as the years pass. It is not hard to go through player stats and find guys who did not get selected for a particular year’s team, but had superior numbers to somebody who did (for example: in 1989, Washington’s Gary Clark, Art Monk and Ricky Sanders ALL had better stats than the Vikings’ Anthony Carter. If you take the WORST stats from each category from the three of them to create a fictional single player, that player would have 14 more catches, for almost 300 more yards and the same number of TDs when compared to Carter!). Are stats everything? Hopefully not, but I’ve heard voters admit that they go look at a player’s stats before hurriedly sending in their ballot.
So why did the above-mentioned injustice occur? In part, because Pro Bowl voting, BY RULE, MUST HAPPEN BEFORE THE SEASON IS ACTUALLY OVER!! For some reason that has never been explained to me, it is necessary for Pro Bowl voting to be based on an incomplete representation of a player’s year. Pro Bowl voting has always ignored AT LEAST the final week of games, and now ignores at least the final two games. You know, some of the most important games of the year. So players that step up in these important late-season games get absolutely NO Pro Bowl love for it! In 2008, 12.5% of every player’s performance was, BY RULE, ignored when it came to Pro Bowl voting. How would you like it if more than 10% of your job performance was purposefully ignored when it was time to determine bonuses or promotions or who gets to keep his job?
I have to wonder…if Philip Rivers or Mario Williams (both NC State grads as it turns out…hmmm…) end up being controversial Hall of Fame candidates (you know, with several years as finalists, and maybe highlight videos and online blogs devoted to getting them in, lol), will the Pro Bowl spots they were each robbed of the last couple of years contribute in some way to helping keep them out?
“Well you know, Philip Rivers only made the Pro Bowl 5 times, and I just can’t vote for someone who didn’t make it at LEAST 6 times…” – Voters say stuff far more stupid than this on a regular basis.